Supernatural - "Jump the Shark"

[kitsu84]

This is one episode that left me feeling - unsatisfied? Conflicted? Angry?

So the Winchesters do indeed - or shall I say did have a younger brother; a brother who was brought up by a good mother; who had father that took him to baseball games, and took him fishing.

Normal parents. A normal life. Something which Dean Winchester has never known, and something that Sam Winchester has only had a small taste of: normalcy. Too bad the kid's been dead a while, and is in fact a ghoul intent on killing the Winchester brothers because their father killed his.

Strange, though, isn't it? Strange how a man who seemed so obsessed with seeking vengeance for the death of the love of his life could in fact being living a second 'normal' one.

♠ Dean -

Oh, Dean. I can only imagine how you must've felt, standing there looking at this boy who had everything you've always wanted: A normal life, a mother, a father who was proud of you. And yet, despite all of that, you still wanted to protect the boy; protect him from the life of a hunter. Even when faced with something such as this, you put your anger aside, and thought of the boy.

♠ Sam -

What's going on here, Sam? This boy has a fighting chance at something that you want for yourself and Dean, and yet you're so quick to condemn him to the same tragic life that both you and your older brother have been forced to bear? What has happened to you?

By the way, Sam, I honestly don't think that was meant to be a compliment, and quite frankly, I agree completely with your brother: you are exactly like your father, in both the good ways and the bad.

♠ Papa Winchester -

A double-life. I must admit that I never would've thought that you would be capable of something such as this, Papa Winchester. Still, you never abandoned the boy. You made sure to let him know that he was loved - something all fathers should do, but unfortunately, many don't.

Maybe if you had showed the same consideration to your other two boys, things would've been different...

That's all I've got to say on this episode. I was left feeling extremely angry, and I actually felt like crying, so yeah... I'm just going to stop there before I actually do start crying.

Oh, boys... I love both of you so very, very much.

KITSU'S FINAL GRADE: C+

Comments

[creativeelf.livejournal.com]

Girl your post makes me depressed LOL *hugs*

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

I know. I'm sorry, bb. It's just that... something in this episode hit me hard. I think it was Dean dealing with his father issues, because I've got them as well.

*clings to you*

[ace-of-spades6.livejournal.com]

Dude seriously? I need to catch up...this is redic...

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Ya, seriously. The boys do indeed have a younger brother...

ETA: Excuse me... They had a younger brother.

[raphaellover.livejournal.com]

I just don't understand the point of this episode?!?!?!

I mean, it added NOTHING to the show. Sam's John-ness was already disgustingly apparent, something else could have triggered Dean's notice of it. I don't even think his reaction to Adam was a decent enough trigger because, despite being like how John treated them, it's not how John treated Adam.

It's just... dumb.

All it does is make me like John Winchester less, and that actually sucks balls. I liked the guy, even with all his flaws before, even with how much he hurt Dean... I sort of understood. He was obsessed. Dedicated. Blind. But now, with Adam, we're shown that that's not necessarily the case. He could play decent dad quite easily and not bat an eye... he could put at least one child's happiness/sanity/well-being before hunting and darkness.

And it even lessens his love for Mary, if you ask me. That he would put Mary's children in the one place she NEVER wanted them to be (even if he didn't know that, you'd think, being half Mary's, John would have loved them so much that he'd tuck them away to keep a piece of her), and then some one night stand's son, whom he doesn't learn about until way later... well, he gets protection and support. Fuck that shit.

I just... John is dead. John was super flawed. Couldn't they have left us our delusions of him trying the best he could with what he had?! That's all this episode did... it ruined my love of a great character.

Now I'm upset. Great.

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I think that was the reason for this episode: To show that John was like any other man - he had needs, flaws, and was in fact not the hero Dean always thought of him to be.

I think another reason for it was to further fracture the boys' relationship.

[auroradream.livejournal.com]

Friend speaks my mind.

This episode left me feeling very disquieted and kinda frustrated. It wasn't good. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't good either.

Hugs for Dean, Smacks for Sam, and Head shakes for John.

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Exactly. It was one of those episodes where, when you were finished with it, you felt horrible. You wished you had never watched, but at the same time you're glad that you did because it provided interesting insight on the characters.

Hugs for Dean, Smacks for Sam, and Head shakes for John.

THIS.

[aleshaula.livejournal.com]

Oh, girl..... I HAD to reply you because I'm feeling the same way... It's kind of good to know that I'm not alone feeling like this.

Loved your review. :)

Can I hug you?

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Thanks, hun. And, yes... By all means hug me. I need it. ;_;

[bellajayd.livejournal.com]

I felt the same way about this episode . . . but then by the time I finished taking it all apart in my review I realized that a LOT more happened that I had first thought. TRU FAX BB. And after the best episode of all time coming before this, no matter what the ep was - it was gonna be a let down!

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

So true. I was actually amazed at just how much information was in this one episode, but like you, I didn't realize it until I started writing my review for it.

And after the best episode of all time coming before this, no matter what the ep was - it was gonna be a let down!

IAWTC. I'm tempted to go watch TMATEOTB again because I know it'll cheer me up.

[xphoenixrising.livejournal.com]

I think the greatest comfort I took from this episode is that John found out about Adam AFTER Sam had left for college. It wasn't this secret he had been harboring for nearly 2 decades. While John had his flaws, after Sam left, he obviously felt that he had fucked up completely, and so seeing Adam, seeing what he had done to his children, John (not in an effort to replace Sam and Dean) saw this as an opportunity to do something right by ONE of his boys.

I liked how this episode was resolved. Sam and Dean needed to see (especially Sam) that all they have is each other. That Dean will be there for his brother to take care of him, and that Sam can still count on him. He got a feeling of being a big brother after all. I like that Adam died before Dean and Sam got to know him because they would not feel the obligation to visit him and make sure he was okay after meeting him.

I think it could've been so much worse, so I was satisfied but I certainly understand why people were disappointed by this episode. We needed a break before the massive happenings in the next three weeks.

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Oh, you're right. I had completely forgotten about the timeline - or shall I say I never thought about the timeline because I was just as pissed at John as Dean was. I never stopped to think that this happened after Sam had left for college. Thanks so much for pointing that out!

I wasn't disappointed, because frankly, I had low expectations to begin with. What I hated was the fact that I felt as if I had been gutted afterwards. This episode hit in my weak spot - that weak spot of course being the issues I have with my own father.

[raphaellover.livejournal.com]

OMFG!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *tackles*

The timeline makes me feel a LOT better about things. I still think John a poo head... but at least it's after fully seeing how his fathering methods sucked. Well, sort of sucked. He drove Sammy away from him and all that.

I still feel badly for Dean, though. All he ever wanted is to be with his family and Sam was gone and John would disappear all the time. And now he finds out some of those instances were to go be a real father to Adam. Blah.

So long as John wasn't ditching out on Sam and Dean like during that Christmas when they were kids to go be with Adam... we're cool!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_whee_/]

I seriously wanted to hug Dean the whole episode. Especially when Adam said John taught him how to drive in the Impala. That's just..I don't know, wrong?

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Agreed. You don't get anymore blasphemous than that.

[http://users.livejournal.com/__hor/]

I'm just glad that kid is dead, no offence, LOL.

[dangerous-47.livejournal.com]

Same here. XD

(I know it's kinda mean, but when it turned out he'd been dead the whole time? I was like huh, okay.)

[julie-lee90.livejournal.com]

It never fails me to see how people only see Dean and not Sam , does everyone think that Dean is the only Winchester thats been damaged? what do some of you think that dammed deal that Dean pulled do to his brother? smack Sam he needs love , help not being pissed on every second some in this fandom see a moment.

It isnt as simple as Dean is in the right or Sam is in the wrong good god that utterly unfair , Dean doesnt deserve the sympathy or understanding alone that poor sod who never asked for the deal in the first place also deserves it and I truely wish this fandom took off its Dean glasses sometimes and realise that instead of lashing out at Sam and accepting Deans behaviour as if its ok because his Dean .

And I wish to god Dean would acknowledge what he put Sam through just one Dean thats all.

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

Please read ALL of the comments before making a reply such as this. It never fails to cause wank in my journal, and quite frankly, I'm getting sick of it.

I post links to my reviews so that people may discuss the episode - not say 'take your Dean glasses off'. I never fail to stick up for Sam when I think people are in the wrong, the same way I do for Dean.

By the way, if you HAD read the comments, you would've noticed that we've been discussing how BOTH brothers are damaged. If you don't believe me, READ THESE.

If you continue to exhibit this behavior, I'll be forced to ban you. Sorry, but enough is enough.

[powerof3.livejournal.com]

I ... did not like this episode one bit. I thought it was a steaming pile of crap up until the end when it had me going, "OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD, SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!" when they sliced his arms open.

I'm annoyed, I'm disappointed, and what I feared would happen happened: this episode changed my outlook on John. How am I supposed to reconcile this with the fact that Mary was his One True Love? I get that Adam's mother was a one night stand, but she looked so much like Mary (to me, at least), that I felt dirty looking at her. Ghoul her. You know what I mean.

Just, ugh. I don't know what to do with this show sometimes. :|

*snugs you liek whoa*

icon is directed at the writers, not you bb

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

I know how you feel, hun. And yet John isn't the one I'm currently mad at.

I've had to delete several wanky Sam!Girl comments, and it's PISSING ME OFF!! Goddamn it, is this all these girls do: Troll journals to say 'OMGYOUSAMHATER!!" Please point out to me exactly WHERE I said I hated Sam. Hell, I've even defended the guy in other entries. WTF?!!

That's it. I'm flocking this entry, and I will NEVER post a public review again. This entire fandom can kiss my ass.

*snugs you liek whoa*

Thanks, bb. I needed that. *clings to you*

[crystalchain.livejournal.com]

This episode disappointed me. It makes John look like one of the hugest assholes that ever walked among us. What the hell was that supposed to be? I'm pissed. Actually I'm so pissed that I'm not even feeling like writing anything about the episode in my own LJ let alone a review. That never really happened before and I don't know what to make out of it just yet.

I felt sorry mainly for Dean. I just wanted to hug him the entire time and never let him go again. The guy is breaking my heart.

I hope next week's episode is gonna be better (which I know it will, we'll love it lol) because I have to say... the episode title of 4x19 is kind of appropriate and I don't want to see an episode like this EVER AGAIN :| the episode wasn't bad but it wasn't good either. I don't like what they did with John's character. In fact I hate it.

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

It all just really depends on how you look at it, bb. If you think about the timeline, John didn't even realize he had a son until Sam was roughly 19? Basically, as other people have stated, John was trying to do right by this son; he realized that he had failed as father where Sam and Dean were concerned, and he didn't want to make that same mistake with Adam.

The same goes for me as well, even if I have been catching some serious flack from Sam!Girls because of it. And what's really sad is the fact that I've actually been defending Sam.

NEXT WEEK. OMFG, NEXT WEEK: "How do you guard your guardian angel?"

[bonbonschnecke.livejournal.com]

WOW so bad? Do I need tissues??? Thanks for your review!

[kitsu84.livejournal.com]

It was pretty rough for me, yes. So you may very well need a box of tissues.

[miss-faith-hope.livejournal.com]

Who knew Dean had so much daddy issues until last night's episode. And I thought Sam was the one with daddy issues.

It was kind of strange to find out Sam and Dean had an half brother out there all along and John lived an double life.

Too bad, we never got to know the real Adam.

[pada-something.livejournal.com]

About Dean, I agree with the angst and I agree with it all. When it comes to Sam... Well, I agre too, you know, I think he's a lot like his father. But if Dean hadn't said that it was John's speech, I'd say it was Dean's, back in the Pilot.
IDEK, but I don't think Sam is so wrong in all that. I think he had been left alone, all by himself, when Dean died, and he reacted to it the way he was able to. When Dean got back it was by surprise and he would never thought it could actually happen - he didn't even know the Angels were real.
So I think he's just... still as hurt as he was back when Dean died and he was alone.

About Papa... It's WEIRD that he had time for a second life, but I also think that it's pretty amazing that he actually cared so much about the boy to never let go.

IDEK. But your entry kind of makes me depressed too lol

[multi-facetedg.livejournal.com]

Yeah the ep made me very annoyed at John, so he didn't know about the kid till Sam left but then he hides him from Dean and takes the kid to Baseball games and that is something he never did for Dean and Sam.

Sam, what the hell is up with you? I miss the old Sam before he got off path and started banging Ruby. He is becoming everything he used to hate about Hunters and Hunting. What Dean said was not meant as a compliment!

Dean, I feel so bad for him, that kid got everything from John that Dean tried to get his whole life.

I really hope that what comes next proves that this ep reallly wasn't a shark jump, I avoid spoilers like whoa but this is making me nervous.

[force-oblique.livejournal.com]

I waskinda mad at John too for having played thisgame and led a double life not ever trying to have his other two boys Dean and Sam away from this curse! :(
But i did like the epi!
Dean was awesome!