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Supernatural - "Sex and Violence"

So, men are slaughtering the most important women in their lives without any provocation whatsoever. The boys decide to investigate, and as it turns out, the men are doing it to be with what they believe to be their "perfect" woman. But, as it turns out, this perfect woman is a siren; a creature of Greek myth who's able to make men fall madly in love with them, and ultimately force them to do their bidding.

Not a bad episode. It was definitely an improvement over last week, and when it was all said and done with, I felt satisfied - and extremely angry. We'll touch upon the reasons for that anger later. Instead, let's concentrate on my favorite parts:

♠ Kiss the Cook -

Is weird that this was my second favorite part out of the entire episode?

I howled when I saw Bobby standing over the stove cooking in his adorable little apron, pretending to be an FBI agent while telling 'Rick' off over the telephone. I also loved the part when he hung up the phone, and you saw an entire wall of phones for every single situation.

I want my own Bobby... He's like a real-life swiss army knife. :D

♠ They take the form of whatever you desire most. -

For every single guy, it had been the woman of their dreams (with the name of a disney princess). And yet, with Dean, it was a guy who was into all of the same things he was? LOL. Talk about subtext...

Damn, I love this show.

♠ "Boo hoo."

I admit it: I have NEVER wanted to slap Sam as badly as I did then. All of the comments he made to Dean were extremely egotistical, and it left me with my jaw on the floor.

All Dean wanted was for Sam to be as open with him as he used to be. With Sam, however, it was an entirely different scenario. He claimed to be a better hunter, and - get this - he said that Dean was holding him back because he was too busy feeling sorry for himself thanks to all of the souls he had tortured in Hell?

Wow.

Well, excuse your brother, Sam. He's got that annoying little thing I like to call a conscience. Clearly, you lost yours in those four months you spent trying to drink yourself into an early grave because of the fact that you couldn't live on without your brother. Oh, wait- I seem to remember you doing the same exact thing in season two when you realized you had a dark destiny ahead of you. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a fucking hypocrite.

Oh, and by the way Sam... Everything isn't alright.

Kitsu's Final Grade: B

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Not to mention his ass was in hell saving yours in the first place because a better hunter knows you NEVER turn your back on your prey!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I don't know why he thought things would be okay. They weren't okay after Asylum and they damn sure aren't going to be okay after this. I'm looking for Dean to withdraw and I'm sure Sam being the egotistal ass that he is won't even notice.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

DAMMIT I knew I should have watched this! I was going to and then decided not to...I AM SO DUMB. But I do want to see what you mean with this SUBTEXT thing :D

This episode was fucking rough for me to watch...Just the whole fight between them.

The things Sam was saying to Dean? FUCK.

Poor Dean just fucking wants his little brother back. He wants him to be fucking honest with him. Not sneaking around and shit.

I loved this episode - even though seeing Dean and Sam fight makes my heart ache.

But on a shallow note - Jared's shoulders, back, lips, hair, arms...FUCK!
*hugs*

Not to mention his ass was in hell saving yours in the first place because a better hunter knows you NEVER turn your back on your prey!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU. Better hunter, my ass...

Yeah I don't know why he thought things would be okay. They weren't okay after Asylum and they damn sure aren't going to be okay after this. I'm looking for Dean to withdraw and I'm sure Sam being the egotistal ass that he is won't even notice.
Agreed. I think this is going to push Dean towards Castiel a bit more. And, no, I don't mean that in the way it sounds. What I mean is that Dean's going to open up a bit more to Castiel, and it will ultimately develop a deeper bond between them.

The episode is currently up for download at

dean_sam if you're interested. It's definitely one of the better episodes this season, so it's worth the wait. You're also going to LOVE the big fight between the brothers at the end. You could cut the tension between them with a knife... Or an axe. Pardon the pun.

I want my own Bobby... He's like a real-life swiss army knife.
LOL I just said the same thing to somebody else. XD

"Boo hoo."
THAT WAS THE LINE THAT SENT ME OVER THE EDGE. !%#^!#@*^(*#OEO@

>:0

LOVE YOU HARDCORE BUT YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT *SMISH*

Which of course is going to irk Sam because it has to be about him.

I mean who bitched an moaned about his problems for two seasons. Now why did he throw his phone when Dean wouldn't tell him where he was I wonder. I mean was it because he was worried or just pissed, or a combination of the two because I really thought he was under the siren spell there but obviously not.

ILU2 ♥ *clings*

Are you sure I will like this one bb? Because you know how I am.

BTW YOU AND ME NEED TO TALK AGAIN I MISS YOU. ♥♥♥♥

The things Sam was saying to Dean? FUCK.
I was rooting for Dean through the entire duration of that fight because Sam has gotten to the point where he needs some sense knocked into him. He also needs for that ego to be deflated.

Poor Dean just fucking wants his little brother back. He wants him to be fucking honest with him. Not sneaking around and shit.
Exactly. All Dean wanted was for things to go back to where they used to be. Unfortunately, thanks to the events of this episode, I don't think that's ever going to happen.

I loved this episode - even though seeing Dean and Sam fight makes my heart ache.
I enjoyed this episode immensely, including the brawl between the brothers. Everything that was said had been boiling under the surface for quite some time, and it was time for the eruption. Still, I was blown away by Sam, and it left me with a whole new viewpoint of the character.

LOL I just said the same thing to somebody else. XD
The man can do anything. Anything. Hell, if we to figure out how to clone him and Misha, we would be billionaires.

THAT WAS THE LINE THAT SENT ME OVER THE EDGE. !%#^!#@*^(*#OEO@
THIS. I can't believe Sam would say such a thing, especially to his own brother who just wanted to connect with him again.

ARGH! I feel like breaking something...

Still, I was blown away by Sam, and it left me with a whole new viewpoint of the character.
Same here. I just don't know how I feel about him now...it's like my Sammy's gone IDK.

Everything they've pushed down and kept hidden from each other just all came out & like you said things are definitely gonna go in a different direction. I'm just not sure where, & that's scary to me.

Why does this show make me so angsty? I feel like throwing something (like my phone) at Sam's head.

I need to read like Dean/Sam schmoop.

Absolutely. Let's put it this way, it's the gayest episode of SPN ever. Or at least that's what my other friends are saying. xD

I still don't understand why the siren didn't just kiss Sam, though. It would've been a hell of a lot easier...

BTW YOU AND ME NEED TO TALK AGAIN I MISS YOU. ♥♥♥♥
I miss you too, bb. It's just that life around here is getting hectic again. We need to set up a designated night where we can talk on LJ. Any ideas?

I would love to have a set of Bobby of Misha. I could play with them all the time....err....that doesn't sound right....

*hands you Sam's shin* Here, BREAK THIS.

I want my own Bobby... He's like a real-life swiss army knife. :D

THIS.

Also, I didn't mention it in my own reaction, but Sam's comments pissed me RIGHT THE FUCK OFF as well. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, it's like the whole concept of the brother relationship has just completely left Sam's head. He's changed SO MUCH and it's NOT FOR THE GOOD, in my opinion.

I'm wondering if the siren's spell was actually making them blurt out hurtful truths or if it really was just things to spout in anger (making them say things they know the other won't want to hear?) But sadly, I don't think the latter is the case. D:

Which of course is going to irk Sam because it has to be about him.
Thank you yet again. It's getting to the point where EVERYTHING has to be about Sam, and it's really starting to piss me off something fierce.

I mean who bitched an moaned about his problems for two seasons. Now why did he throw his phone when Dean wouldn't tell him where he was I wonder. I mean was it because he was worried or just pissed, or a combination of the two because I really thought he was under the siren spell there but obviously not.
I honestly don't think it was because of him being worried; I say it was because he was pissed. And yet it seems to be perfectly fine that he's sneaking off with Ruby on a regular basis?

As I said, he's a fucking hypocrite.

Same here. I just don't know how I feel about him now...it's like my Sammy's gone IDK.
I think the old Sam we all came to love died at the end of season three...

Everything they've pushed down and kept hidden from each other just all came out & like you said things are definitely gonna go in a different direction. I'm just not sure where, & that's scary to me.
I'm intrigued by the possible course of action this series could take now. However, like you, I'm also terrified. And that, my dear, is what makes this show so damn good.

Why does this show make me so angsty? I feel like throwing something (like my phone) at Sam's head.
Same here. In fact, I'm so angry with him that I wouldn't be totally against throwing my PS3 at him with all of the strength I've got.

I would love to have a set of Bobby of Misha. I could play with them all the time....err....that doesn't sound right....
Sounds fine to me (*wink*). Oh, and while we're at it, we can also go ahead and clone Dean.

No, Sam's NOT invited to the cloning party. >:[

*hands you Sam's shin* Here, BREAK THIS.
Gladly. Now, give me a baseball bat.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing, it's like the whole concept of the brother relationship has just completely left Sam's head. He's changed SO MUCH and it's NOT FOR THE GOOD, in my opinion.
I couldn't believe it either, and I was left feeling absolutely appalled. And, you're right... Sam has changed drastically. So much so that I hardly even recognize him anymore.

I'm wondering if the siren's spell was actually making them blurt out hurtful truths or if it really was just things to spout in anger (making them say things they know the other won't want to hear?) But sadly, I don't think the latter is the case. D:
I don't think the latter is the case either. I believe what the boys said to each other during that fight were things they had been dying to say for quite some time.

LOL I might watch it...I might... ;D

ANYWAY...well you can talk to me anytime you want bb, you know I will answer. You know I care for you deeply, remember this: If I wasn't in school right now, I would be with you every day whever you needed me because I know things are hard right now. I would just drive all the way over to North Carolina if that's what it takes.

Oh yes. LOTS AND LOTS of Dean clones. I think you can never have too many. ;)

No, Sam's NOT invited to the cloning party. >:[
I know. Which is sad, because while Sam may have frustrated me in the past, I never hated him. :/

*hand you the baseball bat* SWING AWAY! \o/

Sam doesn't think things are ok, he's not stupid. He didn't think they were ok after Asylum either, but just like then, Dean is going to brush it off.

What Sam said was inexcusable to the point of me feeling sick. However, there is still some truth in what he is feeling. Dean is running from the demons, the angels, the war - everything - and Sam just wants to fight. He is frustrated and alone. He never asked for Dean to go in the first place, in fact, he would have never let Dean make that deal if he was still around. What he said crossed the line, for sure, and it was SO COLD, god - but remember - what Dean said was true, too. This Sam isn't the Sam we knew anymore.

*sobs*

I want my own Bobby... He's like a real-life swiss army knife. :D

OMG that is the best description of Bobby I've ever heard, LOL! It's so true... Bobby kicks some major ass :)

Seriously, I know I already wrote out my thoughts in my journal too but I didn't really touch on Sam's asshole nature as much as I should have... I mean, the things Dean said when he was under the siren's spell? Totally justified. What Sam said? I couldn't believe it. We already KNOW that what Dean said was stuff that was already on his mind previously thanks to the beginning of the episode, so does that mean these are things that have been floating around in Sam's head too? Eesh. Part of me really wishes Castiel would just smite him already :/

ETA: You know, I just had to add this... what a slap in the face to Dean! He was so worried about opening up about the whole hell thing and Sam told him that he cared and he wanted to help him... and then THIS? What a fucking slap in the face :/ Poor Dean. Maybe he really IS alone in this in the end :(

Sam doesn't think things are ok, he's not stupid. He didn't think they were ok after Asylum either, but just like then, Dean is going to brush it off.
I realize that. I was just being sarcastic.

What Sam said was inexcusable to the point of me feeling sick. However, there is still some truth in what he is feeling.
I disagree. Dean was forced to endure horrific atrocities while he was in Hell, and for the most part, he has dealt with it better than any other "normal" person would've.

Dean is running from the demons, the angels, the war - everything - and Sam just wants to fight. He is frustrated and alone.
Dean hasn't ran from anything, not even Alastair. He has been a very brave soul this season, despite everything he has endured. As for Sam being alone, that's his choice. In fact, that's what Dean brought up when he was infected by the siren; he said that he was tired of all of Sam's little secrets, and that he just wanted things to go back to the way they were.

He never asked for Dean to go in the first place, in fact, he would have never let Dean make that deal if he was still around.
That doesn't matter now. What's done is done.

What he said crossed the line, for sure, and it was SO COLD, god - but remember - what Dean said was true, too. This Sam isn't the Sam we knew anymore.
It was a low blow, especially considering the fact that it came from his own brother. Still, I agree with you: Sam is definitely not the person whom we all came to love through the first three seasons... And that breaks my heart.

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