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Supernatural - "Heaven and Hell"

Kripke... You truly are a magnificent bastard. I love you. And for those of you wondering why I am completely enamored with the Kripkeeper right now, check out my thoughts on tonight's episode by clicking the cut-link below.

This episode right here was superb. Now, granted, it still doesn't match up to my all-time favorite episode - that of course being All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2 - but it was good nonetheless. Everyone played the roles perfectly, and I completely nailed exactly why it was that the angels wanted Anna dead in one of the theories I had thrown by

zed_pm in our many discussions pertaining to Supernatural.

Another thing, this episode made my fangirl heart explode on at least three occasions. Seriously, Kripke... You're killing me here.

Let's break it down:

1. Anna was, in fact, a fallen angel -

Zed, are you hearing this? I nailed it, bb! \o/

If you think about it, that was the only thing that could possibly explain her abilities. And you know what? I loved that little plot-twist. And, no... It wasn't because I predicited it; it was because it added a whole new level of potential character development for Castiel.

Think about it: Castiel is already beginning to think in the same exact fashion that Anna once did - which leads one to believe that he may indeed fall from grace one day. And personally, I believe that he will. The reason for his fall? Dean.

2. The "Titanic" scene in the back of the Impala -

I admit it... I LOL'd. Seriously, people, that scene was going so well until they did that. I was sitting there with my mother and we both rolled our eyes and chuckled. Not cool, Mr. Tobin... Not cool. It was also completely unoriginal.

Other than that though, I was satisfied. So, meh... I guess I can live with the laughable "hand on sweaty window" there at the end. LOLZ.

3. Uriel threatening Dean in his dreams -

This scene explained why it was that Castiel asked what Dean was dreaming about in the episode "In the Beginning" in such a smug manner. It also made my fangirl heart go boom boom because Uriel confirmed what a fair portion of the fanbase has suspected all along: Castiel has feelings for Dean. Now, as for what those feelings are, that's left up to one's own interpetation.

4. The look Castiel gave Dean when Anna kissed him -

I'm sorry, people, but there is no denying that one. The camera deliberately zoomed in on Castiel when they kissed, showing us the look of hurt on his face, and him ultimately cutting his eyes away. And, no... It had nothing to do with Anna because that wouldn't make sense at this point in the series. That look was because Dean was kissing her. There's no convincing me otherwise.

Castiel's feelings for Dean... I'm sorry, but from what I've learned in my pursuit of psychology - along with studying people's body language - that look meant that Castiel's feelings for Dean go beyond that of an angel looking out for his human mission. This train of thought is also further backed up by what Uriel said to Dean.

5. Alastair almost killed Castiel -

Yet again I will admit to something: I screamed at my television. I swear, I felt my heart jump up into my throat when that scene took place. In fact, I may or may not have shouted out: "Dean? Sam? Uri? God dammit, will somebody please him?!!"

Kripke... You're a sadistic SOB. You deliberately put that part in there because you knew how we would react. Although, I guess that also further proves that you're a genius... I hate you.

6. Dean saved Castiel -

*slasher heart jumps with glee*

7. Oh, my God... Kripke killed Alastair. You bastard! -

Why? Why did you have to kill him off? He was so damn badass despite his strange voice. *sobs*

8. Dean confesses his sins to Sam -

I'm not sure what I think about this scene. On the one hand, my heart broke for Dean. To think that he lasted for thirty years going through something like that? It's horrific just to try and imagine it... Let alone live through it.

Which of course brings up the part that has got me conflicted: Dean isn't acting like someone who was tortured for thirty years, and then later forced to do the torturing on other people for ten. I'm sorry Kripkeeper, but something just doesn't jive there because there's no way that Dean would come out of something like that and be in the stable psychological state he appears to be in now. It's impossible. The damage to his mentaility would be extensive.

Still, Jensen sucessfully broke me with this scene...

This episode was great, but it failed to meet the 'epic' scale.

Kitsu's Final Grade: B

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The look Castiel gave Dean when Anna kissed him -

I'M GOING TO ICON THE FUCK OUT OF THAT SCENE. I SCREAMED A BIT AND JUMPED OUT OF MY CHAIR AND BOUNCED AROUND THE ROOM. IT'S CANON.

I screamed at my television. I swear

SAME. OH MY GOD, SAME.

I WAS SO UPSET WHEN ALASTAIR DIED. HE IS DEAD RIGHT? KAJDSDJSJD WHEN HE AND URIEL WERE EXCHANGING WITTY BANTER I THOUGHT MY SCREEN WOULD COMBUST FROM THE AWESOMENESS.

I agree with Dean acting too stable after having gone through all that but then again, Cas probably healed alot of his soul along with his body when he yanked him outta hell. Plus it wouldn't really work for the show if Dean was a blubbering mess all the time. lol

My inner slasher is seriously in love with Kripke right now. Seriously. There's no way this season doesn't end with canon Dean/Castiel. *dons tinhat*

But is Alistair truly gone?????????? is my question.

Now the Catiel thing which hello my lord you expounded on forever yes. I noticed that ALOT!!!!!!

Now he's not going to fall right now because hello mortal peril with the seals but I feel like he's not far from it. He was none to pleased to see that Uriel had Anna's grace either.

I think Uriel has a prideful and envious heart and we know what they say about pride.

I think we'll see more breaks in Dean's psychy it's not going to happen all at once with him. He's already been doing a lot of drinking and if you'll notice Sam's been doing a hell of a lot of leading and Dean following. Sometimes you forget though Dean's way of dealing with things is to hide them and that's going to come into play here especially when he's so ashamed of them.

I was also yelling at the tv over Castiel almost dying and damn if it wasn't Dean saving him, I was very giddy about that turn of events. :)

Castiel/Dean? Grasp as hard as you can and let no one make you believe differently.

I did laugh during Dean's "stick where the sunshines" speech.

I love Castiel. Although I never really slashed him with Dean, Not that I am opposed to it, just never really crossed my mind. But tonight it kinda did when Uri said that Castiel liked Dean. I did do a little "hmmm". And again when they showed Castiel when Anna kissed Dean.
And honestly that would be a really odd but interesting twist to have Castiel fall from grace to be with Dean, not that I think it will happen, but you never know.

I agree with you about the whole 'forty years' thing just not working. I mean jeez, I did a research paper on Stasi prisons and torture, and people who had been imprisoned for a couple of weeks or months were seriously messed up afterwards, and yet Dean has decades and he comes back making jokes and acting normal? Also, if one month earth time = ten years hell time, then John was in hell at least 1,200 years. Yeah, he shoulda been a super demon when he came through the gate...

CASTIEL/DEAN IS CANON YOU CANNOT TELL ME OTHERWISE. Why would Castiel have looked so brokenhearted when Dean kissed Anna if it wasn't? OMG KRIPKE THANK YOU.

Ahem.

I loved this episode. And you weren't the only one screaming at the TV. Well, I wasn't screaming, because Mr. Po3 would have looked at me funny, but I was thinking REALLY LOUDLY in my head.

Jensen hit that last scene out of the park. I was in tears. He broke me too.

I can't believe they killed Alastair. I'm kind of hoping he's not really dead, but it's kind of hard to survive what happened, or so I'm assuming.

I'd have to disagree on the Dean/Castiel bit because Castiel specifically mentioned that him and Anna had a history. Castiel LOVES humanity and he was so shocked and surprised that Dean didn't think he deserved to be saved, so I think he views him as a lost little puppy than a love interest.

The reason for his fall? Dean.

HE TOTALLY WANTS TO HAVE DEAN'S BABIES!

Anna as a fallen angel was a little predictable, but I thought the actress did a great job with the material she had for tonight.

I seriously can't get enough of the slashyness of this episode!

I too had a panic attack when Alastair had his hands wrapped around Castiel's pretty neck. That scene was way way too long. The Winchesters, especially Sam, seemed awfully slow tonight in battle. I guess they expected the Angels to do all the work.. dunno. Still.. if Eric Kripke does that again... *sharpens knives*

I agree, the whole way Dean is acting and he remembers all from Hell? O_o I would have thought someone whos been through that would be totally mental -_-

:D i agree with a lot of stuff here.

but, uh, are you sure alaistair is dead? 'cause to be it looked like they just "beamed" away...

7. Oh, my God... Kripke killed Alastair. You bastard! -

Why? Why did you have to kill him off? He was so damn badass despite his strange voice. *sobs*

HO SHIT THIS.

DUDE, HE WAS SO EPIC (but srsly where the fuck was his accent from?!)

2. The "Titanic" scene in the back of the Impala -

I admit it... I LOL'd. Seriously, people, that scene was going so well until they did that.

I'm still wondering if it was some kind of joke or a bet; I just laughed so hard at this one, harder than I was already laughing at the whole scene actually XD
IMO that was nothing but awkward and cheesy.

YES YOU DID NAIL IT. ARE YOU EVER GONNA LET ME LIVE THAT DOWN??? XP

Zed, are you hearing this? I nailed it, bb! \o/
That's it! You get your Jensen revoked for a week. NO FLAUNTING ALLOWED.

...which leads one to believe that he may indeed fall from grace one day. And personally, I believe that he will. The reason for his fall? Dean.
That would explain the "We had history" line. Hmmmm.
Also, I'm logging this prediction for later. :P

I admit it... I LOL'd. Seriously, people, that scene was going so well until they did that. I was sitting there with my mother and we both rolled our eyes and chuckled.
The only thought that crossed my mind was "SOMEBODY GET THE BLEACH.' No kidding. I wanted the Impala hosed down. I was even screaming at her to get off the hood when she was leaning on it earlier. Bad, bad zed...

It also made my fangirl heart go boom boom because Uriel confirmed what a fair portion of the fanbase has suspected all along: Castiel has feelings for Dean. Now, as for what those feelings are, that's left up to one's own interpetation.
Um. Yeah. I just don't know anymore...

The camera deliberately zoomed in on Castiel when they kissed, showing us the look of hurt on his face, and him ultimately cutting his eyes away. And, no... It had nothing to do with Anna because that wouldn't make sense at this point in the series. That look was because Dean was kissing her. There's no convincing me otherwise.
Maybe it's because Castiel has worked so hard to get Dean to do what was right and the he goes and kisses the very thing they're hunting? Could that be it? STOP SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO. XP
But, the camera did do a good zooming job. I enjoyed that shot. NOOOOOM

I swear, I felt my heart jump up into my throat when that scene took place. In fact, I may or may not have shouted out: "Dean? Sam? Uri? God dammit, will somebody please him?!!"
This bugged me quite a bit for a number of reasons, but I will try and be brief. Other than Alastair ruining the moment of Castiel actually doing some fighting of his own (GUUUUUH), I also found it hard to believe that the same Angel who rased a forest and imprinted his hand on a human would fail to overcome a demon of whatever "rank." But, there's a whole lot more to why I feel that way and I know it'll bore you, so...yeah.

NEXT! LOL

Although, I guess that also further proves that you're a genius... I hate you.
Like I said last week, he's probably just sitting back and taking it all in whilst laughing at at the fans. XP

6. Dean saved Castiel -
*slasher heart jumps with glee*
I think that is a major development, almost as major as how Dean was the one to give Anna up. WHICH I TOTALLY CALLED. phft.

7. Oh, my God... Kripke killed Alastair. You bastard! -
Why? Why did you have to kill him off? He was so damn badass despite his strange voice. *sobs*
Did he die? I guess he did...

I'm sorry, but I just have to insert here how BEAUTIFUL Castiel looked when he was staring at Anna transform or whatever the heck she was doing. I think I almost started crying....then I was all like "I TOTALLY NEED AN ICON OF THAT." XD

Also, this scene need one thing: JOHN WINCHESTER. Can you just imagine that?? *ponders* Mmmm....

*snaps back to the real world*

I'm sorry Kripkeeper, but something just doesn't jive there because there's no way that Dean would come out of something like that and be in the stable psychological state he appears to be in now. It's impossible. The damage to his mentaility would be extensive.
Yes to ALL of the above. As much as I ADORE Dean, this particular point has been played out all wrong. :(

Jensen was AMAZING. *huggles him*

This episode was great, but it failed to meet the 'epic' scale.
It was pretty epic where pornos are concerned...DID I JUST SAY THAT?
Whoops...*goes back to hidey hole*

At the end of the episode I found myself wondering what the heck all of this had to do with anything. Now, I don't know about you, but I was just a little perturbed. It was nice to see Castiel and Uriel kicking major demon butt, but...what was the point?

Also, I'm not even gonna start on the whole her grace landed in a tree thing...THE HECK WAS THAT ABOUT????? That's like Doctor Who material right there.

Which of course brings up the part that has got me conflicted: Dean isn't acting like someone who was tortured for thirty years,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a problem with that. I loved that whole scene at the end and Jensen did an amazing job with it, but it just doesn't work for me. Dean's not behaving like he went through all that. I mean, no one bounces back from an experience like that and is able to pretend that nothing happened. Dean's now technically spent more time in hell than he has on earth o.O

Other than that...I loved the episode. Castiel was awesome! And I was really scared for a minute when Alistair got him...but Dean saving him made me a happy fangirl <3

OMG THE TITANIC SCENE. Which I hated and despised and loathed and hated some more. As soon as that hand swept across the steamy ~~carriage window in the storage levels of that great and mighty ship~~ Impala window, I was all ARGH CAN NOT WATCH THIS, LEO.

Still. Overall Frowziness and Obviousness made up for the awkward horror of Titanic Scene.

I'm completely with you on the unrealisticness of Dean being a-ok all Season apart from the last three minutes of the episode about spending ten years as a soul torturer. He's been remarkably compartmentalised and stable despite events that would have sent anyone else either insane or into a deep dark pit of depression.

Haha. I think we two were the only who had thought that Anna was a fallen angel. I was convinceed of it, though at the same time, I was convinced that Kripke was going to susprise me xD And yeah, I totally think that Cas will fall, and if he does, it will be because of Dean. Absolutely.

Titanic = BIG LOL EVER. But also, Dean said Power Rangers! He's totally my hero, yes XDD

Castiel has feelings for Dean. Now, as for what those feelings are, that's left up to one's own interpetation.

YESYESYES. I liked all this a lot, because it was what I was thinking since the very beginning. Aww, I suppose you know my interpretation ;)

4. I totally agree with you hear. I haven't studied psychology but a year (last year, actually) that I had the subject in the high school. But I still think the same. I mean... first of all, the camera zoomed him, it has to mean something and then the look in his eyes. Nobody is gonna convince me. Well, nobody is trying, actually xD Most of the people I know (not Cas/Dean shippers) think the same. I suppose you can have your own interpretation of what feelings are, as you said, but nobody can doubt anymore that there's something beyond the angel-human feelings there.

With Alastair trying to kill Cas and Dean saving him and then the thing about the promise... Well, I was all jumping like 'OHMYGOD, KRIPKE, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU BASTARD!' Hahaha. I knew that he wouldn't kill him, but at this moment I didn't even think XD It was Castiel! LOL. And Dean saving him... They're soooo cute ♥ XD

I wanted Alastair to stay some more episodes! ;__;

The last part... I think the same. It was a long time. 40 years! 30 being tortured and 10 torturing. Everyday. No rest. Just, the same one day and another and another... And Dean seems so... normal. But as you said... Jensen was awesome crying at this scene. I cried with him.

Oh, and we haven't any more episodes until january :OOO

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