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kitsu84 ([personal profile] kitsu84) wrote2008-10-09 02:07 am

Happy Supernatural Day~

Happy Supernatural Day, my lovely people! And with it, I pose a question to the Supernatural fans on both my flist, and those of you who may be lurking:

Do you believe that Castiel has been contradicting in his conversations with Dean?

Now I know some of you are probably thinking: "What the hell is she talking about? Has she been smoking something?"

No, I haven't smoked anything - all I've had is one beer to relax me after the evening I had with a certain individual which caused my temper to flare somewhat. So, I'm thinking rather coherently at the moment.

This question actually hit me in the doctor's office today. You see, Castiel pointed out to Dean that all roads lead to the same destination. He also knew that Dean wouldn't be able to stop his mother's deal with Azazel. Now, if he knows what's lying ahead for the brothers, why did he tell Dean to stop Sam from going down this dangerous path? If he already knows what's going to happen, why has he been acting as if he doesn't? Is it all done to set Dean on the 'correct' path? If that's the case, then why make the remark that all roads lead to the same destination? This suggests that it really doesn't matter what Dean does, the outcome will be the same. So why bother asking him?

Also, did anyone else notice the small smirk Castiel gave to Dean when he asked what he was dreaming about? Was this part of the role, or was this just something Misha did.

Am I being too analytical? Yes? Ok, I'll shut-up.

[identity profile] thunder-nari.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Castiel say that they couldn't see where Sam's path lead? Meaning maybe destiny hasn't decided on it's path there just yet. Unless my mind is just making that up...

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what I was talking about.

Castiel pointed out that all roads lead to the same destination, and yet he says that they're unable to see where Sam's path leads? It's a contradiction.

[identity profile] thunder-nari.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I had to re-watch this episode to remember what you were talking about. So...the poster below brings up a good point. Either that or 'god just works in mysterious ways'. ;) Or Castiel is a manipulative SOB.
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[identity profile] dangerous-47.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe something is fogging up the roads for Sam, so they don't see where it's goin. *Shrugs*

So, it might lead somewhere all the same, but they can't see it so he knows whatever happens will happen but he doesn't know what will happen because they can't see it yet.

Does that make sense?

And I don't remember seeing a smirk, but it's been a while since I watched the ep. :)

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe something is fogging up the roads for Sam, so they don't see where it's goin. *Shrugs*

So, it might lead somewhere all the same, but they can't see it so he knows whatever happens will happen but he doesn't know what will happen because they can't see it yet.


So basically you're saying that they do know that Sam is indeed stopped - they just don't know who's responsible for it? Or maybe they do know, they just don't know how it came about?

Ugh. My head's hurting...
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[identity profile] dangerous-47.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, maybe something like that. *Shrugs*

[identity profile] phoenix-bellamy.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It was kind of a contradiction for me too... It's easy to come across a lot of them when you start talking about "destiny" and foreseen paths and such.

Anyway, it looked like a smirk to me too but I guess it was a thing Misha added, because he did it mainly with his eyes...

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's easy to come across a lot of them when you start talking about "destiny" and foreseen paths and such.

So very true. The subject of destiny is a delicate one to get into.

Anyway, it looked like a smirk to me too but I guess it was a thing Misha added, because he did it mainly with his eyes...

I kinda figured as much. I knew I was probably being a bit too analytical, but you never know where Kripke & Company are concerned. It's clear to see that he knows EXACTLY where he wants this series to go, so I had wondered if he had told Misha to add that in there.

Meh. I'm probably just thinking too much.

[identity profile] x5649.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a bit contradictory, but that just plays into the mysterious "angel" thing I guess... and as for that "smirk" yes.... that was most definitely a smirk :D Or maybe that's just my fangirl kicking in... :D

Oh and... just for this post... I LOVE YOU! And your icon is made of WIN!

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh and... just for this post... I LOVE YOU! And your icon is made of WIN!

Aw, thank you.

And, yeah, that icon is indeed made of win because it's true. XD

[identity profile] zed-pm.livejournal.com 2008-10-09 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Since all roads lead to the same path, I think if Dean doesn't stop him, the Angels will, or maybe even someone else. Either way, he's gonna be stopped. y/n/yeah right you've lost it?

I liked Castiel's little smirk a little too much, methinks. XD And, the way he said "What were YOU dreaming about?" like he had also been lying there dreaming about something. lol But, I know he just meant that he knew Dean was dreaming about Hell. Whatever he still all awesome and yummy and junk. nomnomnomnom


HAPPY WINCHESTER DAY!!!! \o/

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I was thinking. Maybe Castiel does indeed know how Sam is stopped - he just doesn't know which road lead up to that point, and he's making sure to cover all avenues.

[identity profile] zed-pm.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
You make it sounds so much better than I did. lol And, it only took you a sentence.

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-11 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Thus proving that I'm made of awesome. XD

[identity profile] zed-pm.livejournal.com 2008-10-11 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I already knew that. XP

[identity profile] kitsu84.livejournal.com 2008-10-12 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Good. It's always nice when people appreciate your greatness. LOL.

By the way, you're made of awesome too, bb.

*smishes*

[identity profile] zed-pm.livejournal.com 2008-10-12 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww. *blushes* Thanks, bb.

*glompsmish*

(Anonymous) 2008-10-14 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm I'm not sure that Castiel said that he knows what is gonna happen in the future... he only said that destiny can't be changed. So, Dean could'nt change the path of his parents, because it's already happened in the past. But I don't remember him saying that he knows (or can go in) the future though,... Maybe I'm wrong, I'm a french canadian but i hate watching tv shows with the french traduction, maybe i missed something. (Sorry if my english is bad!)